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<blockquote data-quote="Harry" data-source="post: 24331" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>So both of these methods WILL work, however, both are insecure.</p><p></p><p>So, when you 'compile' your program, it'll take anyone with google and 2 minutes to get your full source code. Think Im wrong, send me a program with nothing in it but a 'string GetThis = "SOMETHING HERE";' and send it to me, Ill get it easily.</p><p></p><p>However, the method with 'sending some type of signal' is what I do on one of my programs. I can do this because the program communicated with my server in order to retrieve or send information. For instance, when you login, all you are doing is authenticating a username and password exist, same with registration, you're just making it exist.</p><p>However, when you purchase something, it's all done through my site. You enter your PayPal info into PayPal, then my site will receive information from PayPal to say whether I should give you credits or not, and how many.</p><p>Although my application says 'You have 10 credits remaining', you can crack this and edit it to say '1000', right? Wrong. Because when you try to use one, my server-sided code sends a request to my database, to see if you have '1' credit remaining. If its true, it'll take away a credit and then return a value I want it to. However, if it's false, it'll return an error ("You are out of credits"). The 'You have 1000 credits remaining' is just a basic notification. The login is just a simple way of remembering who you are, and who we should take and give the credits to and from. </p><p></p><p>When you are building an application that works all client based, it's a lot harder. You'll find the majority of programs have 'cracks' or 'nulled' versions of themselves because of this (Adobe EVERYTHING is a great example of this). There is <strong>NO</strong> sure way of making your client sided program safe or secure.</p><p>When you enter (for a login): [CODE]"SELECT * FROM users WHERE username = "+username.Text+" AND password = "+password.Text;"[/CODE] your are literally opening yourself up to sooo many malicious attacks, even when your program is confused or obfuscated.</p><p>Lemme tell you why:</p><p>1: You are giving me columns, database name AND a database hostname all at once. This goes back to my, if someone uses the same information on another website or tool, RIP them.</p><p>2: Windows can't read your "syhoiwcy75t23785yc8wbt78y389bc8" confused code, it reads "MessageBox.Show("My Code")", so sometime, your program will be plain source code. This means I could dump your program and get the source code from that. Pretty basic.</p><p></p><p>I know this has been longwinded, but please, reconsider making a login <strong>unless</strong> you are doing your stuff web based. </p><p></p><p>Here is a project I am currently working on: <a href="http://profoundsource.xyz" target="_blank">http://profoundsource.xyz</a></p><p>You run a listener which will be open source, but nothing is insecure (this will have a login and a paid feature to remove the advertisement I am putting on it).</p><p></p><p>~ Harry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harry, post: 24331, member: 35"] So both of these methods WILL work, however, both are insecure. So, when you 'compile' your program, it'll take anyone with google and 2 minutes to get your full source code. Think Im wrong, send me a program with nothing in it but a 'string GetThis = "SOMETHING HERE";' and send it to me, Ill get it easily. However, the method with 'sending some type of signal' is what I do on one of my programs. I can do this because the program communicated with my server in order to retrieve or send information. For instance, when you login, all you are doing is authenticating a username and password exist, same with registration, you're just making it exist. However, when you purchase something, it's all done through my site. You enter your PayPal info into PayPal, then my site will receive information from PayPal to say whether I should give you credits or not, and how many. Although my application says 'You have 10 credits remaining', you can crack this and edit it to say '1000', right? Wrong. Because when you try to use one, my server-sided code sends a request to my database, to see if you have '1' credit remaining. If its true, it'll take away a credit and then return a value I want it to. However, if it's false, it'll return an error ("You are out of credits"). The 'You have 1000 credits remaining' is just a basic notification. The login is just a simple way of remembering who you are, and who we should take and give the credits to and from. When you are building an application that works all client based, it's a lot harder. You'll find the majority of programs have 'cracks' or 'nulled' versions of themselves because of this (Adobe EVERYTHING is a great example of this). There is [B]NO[/B] sure way of making your client sided program safe or secure. When you enter (for a login): [CODE]"SELECT * FROM users WHERE username = "+username.Text+" AND password = "+password.Text;"[/CODE] your are literally opening yourself up to sooo many malicious attacks, even when your program is confused or obfuscated. Lemme tell you why: 1: You are giving me columns, database name AND a database hostname all at once. This goes back to my, if someone uses the same information on another website or tool, RIP them. 2: Windows can't read your "syhoiwcy75t23785yc8wbt78y389bc8" confused code, it reads "MessageBox.Show("My Code")", so sometime, your program will be plain source code. This means I could dump your program and get the source code from that. Pretty basic. I know this has been longwinded, but please, reconsider making a login [B]unless[/B] you are doing your stuff web based. Here is a project I am currently working on: [URL]http://profoundsource.xyz[/URL] You run a listener which will be open source, but nothing is insecure (this will have a login and a paid feature to remove the advertisement I am putting on it). ~ Harry [/QUOTE]
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